{"id":11,"date":"2019-09-16T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-09-16T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/?p=11"},"modified":"2020-12-27T18:53:17","modified_gmt":"2020-12-27T18:53:17","slug":"reading-surf-forecasts-but-how-do-i-know-if-it-s-going-to-be-good-7d2ae78f994d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/reading-surf-forecasts-but-how-do-i-know-if-it-s-going-to-be-good-7d2ae78f994d\/","title":{"rendered":"Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 id=\"0c96\" class=\"graf graf--h3 graf--leading graf--title\">Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good?<\/h3>\n<figure>\n<p><figure style=\"width: 800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/cdn-images-1.medium.com\/max\/800\/1%2A_kl7v4Jj-CKNrgT9jNoqYA.jpeg?resize=640%2C358&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"358\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">But the forecast said 5\u20136 ft\u2026<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/figure>\n<p id=\"0148\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--figure graf--trailing\">This article is part 4 of a series about reading surf forecasts. Here are the <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/?p=9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@surf.lazy\/reading-surf-forecasts-the-basics-76d25753d82b\">first<\/a>, <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/?p=8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@surf.lazy\/reading-surf-forecasts-what-can-go-wrong-12d435be2f59\">second<\/a> and <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/?p=12\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@surf.lazy\/reading-surf-forecasts-swell-height-911970022082\">third<\/a> articles.<\/p>\n<p id=\"4dbd\" class=\"graf graf--p graf--leading\">We surfers have one goal\u200a\u2014\u200afinding out when and where the best waves in our travel radius are going to be and making sure we\u2019re there to surf them.<\/p>\n<p id=\"62b1\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">We have one primary tool to accomplish this goal\u200a\u2014\u200athe surf forecast. The question then is \u201cHow do I translate a surf forecast into a decision about when and where to surf?\u201d.<\/p>\n<p id=\"6414\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">I\u2019m going to make it real easy on you\u200a\u2014\u200a<strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">to increase your chances of making a good decision about where and when to surf, you must keep track of which conditions you like the most at each spot within your travel radius.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_40\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-40\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-40\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_I94VRKXyeWAaLAtmDm0zVQ.jpeg?resize=640%2C422&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_I94VRKXyeWAaLAtmDm0zVQ.jpeg?w=768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_I94VRKXyeWAaLAtmDm0zVQ.jpeg?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-40\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sounds like work to me.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/figure>\n<p id=\"0b54\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--figure\">This is easy to say but difficult to do. There are an infinite number of possible combinations of conditions at any one spot and throw in the fact that the bottom of the ocean changes (especially at beach breaks) and it\u2019s enough to make you want to throw out your mini simmons and take up fishing (this would be a mistake, fishing is just as bad in this respect).<\/p>\n<h3 id=\"69e3\" class=\"graf graf--h3 graf-after--p\">Why is this the best\u00a0way?<\/h3>\n<h4 id=\"dc4d\" class=\"graf graf--h4 graf-after--h3\">Wave quality is subjective<\/h4>\n<figure><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-39\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_l9_ZxCeAx0daDPCt8Kh3VQ.jpeg?resize=480%2C360&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_l9_ZxCeAx0daDPCt8Kh3VQ.jpeg?w=480&amp;ssl=1 480w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_l9_ZxCeAx0daDPCt8Kh3VQ.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/figure>\n<p id=\"0f6e\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--figure\">The most vivid illustration of this is the difference between a wave that shortboarders prefer vs. a wave that longboarders prefer\u200a\u2014\u200ain general, shortboarders prefer steeper, pitchier waves whereas longboarders prefer rollier, slopier waves.<\/p>\n<p id=\"336c\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">But it goes deeper\u200a\u2014\u200ayour skill level will determine the height at which waves switch from fun to terrifying. Beginners aren\u2019t going to have a good time in 6\u20138 foot surf but intermediates might.<\/p>\n<p id=\"a889\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Different people have different preferences for the kinds of waves they like to surf and so <em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">you<\/em> need to figure out what conditions result in <em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">your<\/em> favorite kinds of waves.<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"e04f\" class=\"graf graf--h4 graf-after--p\">Every spot reacts to different conditions differently<\/h4>\n<p id=\"06f8\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">Waves in shallow water are greatly affected by the ocean floor. Since each spot has a different floor each spot will look different given the same swell. A spot that\u2019s completely dead might have beautiful 5 feet A-frames coming in right next to it.<\/p>\n<p id=\"6181\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">This means that conditions alone can\u2019t tell you what the surf is going to be like. You also have to factor in the ocean floor at the spots you like to surf at. This becomes especially important at beachbreaks where the ocean floor can change drastically in a short period of time.<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"add0\" class=\"graf graf--h4 graf-after--p\">Nearshore forecast models are not\u00a0great<\/h4>\n<p id=\"1ef6\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">Forecasts at individual spots are often incorrect. Predicting what a swell will do at a specific spot close to shore is <strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">incredibly difficult<\/strong>. Good on them for trying but the sites that do this are often wrong and so you shouldn\u2019t rely on them for all of your information.<\/p>\n<p id=\"be3f\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Instead, focus on offshore forecasts models like WaveWatch III (see the Stormsurf visualization of this model <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stormsurf.com\/mdls\/menu_wam.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.stormsurf.com\/mdls\/menu_wam.html\">here<\/a>)\u200a\u2014\u200athese tend to be forecast models that are generated by large organizations or governments and have many billions of dollars relying on them to be correct. It is still a prediction and so can be off but they tend to be more accurate than the nearshore models.<\/p>\n<p id=\"41b4\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">For current data focus on the closest ocean buoy. You can find a map of all the NOAA buoys <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ndbc.noaa.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.ndbc.noaa.gov\/\">here<\/a>. If you\u2019re outside the U.S. you might have a hard time finding public buoy information but give it a try because it\u2019s worth it\u200a\u2014\u200abuoys provide <strong class=\"markup--strong markup--p-strong\">real data<\/strong> unlike forecasts which are predictions. They are your best bet for figuring out what the surf is currently like.<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"7eb4\" class=\"graf graf--h4 graf-after--p\">You won\u2019t need\u00a0cams<\/h4>\n<p id=\"4248\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">Spot cams are great. I\u2019ve got a bunch bookmarked and I check them quite often. Unfortunately so does everyone else in Southern California.<\/p>\n<p id=\"2ac6\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">If you don\u2019t have any friends, wait till a good looking swell hits La Jolla Shores and paddle on out. It\u2019s the only networking event where you won\u2019t be able to tell if someone is peeing while you\u2019re talking to them.<\/p>\n<figure><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-38\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_kNdEdtIlaT5vH5UXtulVgQ.jpeg?resize=640%2C364&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_kNdEdtIlaT5vH5UXtulVgQ.jpeg?w=739&amp;ssl=1 739w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/1_kNdEdtIlaT5vH5UXtulVgQ.jpeg?resize=300%2C171&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n<p id=\"121e\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--figure graf--trailing\">If you have enough friends then keep track of the conditions at a spot without any cams on it and paddle out when you know it\u2019s good. You might even have it to yourself.<\/p>\n<p id=\"748c\" class=\"graf graf--p graf--leading graf--trailing\">If I\u2019ve convinced you that keeping track of conditions at your local spots is worth the trouble then the next question is \u201chow should I do this?\u201d\u200a\u2014\u200aand the answer is use an <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/?utm_source=medium&amp;utm_campaign=how_do_i_know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/?utm_source=medium&amp;utm_campaign=how_do_i_know\">app<\/a>, or <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/u\/0\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/u\/0\/\">Google Sheets<\/a>, or a <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Stormrider-Surf-Journal-Atlas-Planner\/dp\/1908520396\/ref=sr_1_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Stormrider-Surf-Journal-Atlas-Planner\/dp\/1908520396\/ref=sr_1_1\">physical notebook<\/a>, or any other tool that allows you to write this information down, then try to find trends in the data. Your favorite spot might work best when the swell is 3\u20135 ft from 255\u00b0-275\u00b0 with no wind\u200a\u2014\u200abe one of the few that knows this sort of information and you\u2019ll greatly increase your chances of scoring great surf.<\/p>\n<p id=\"ff15\" class=\"graf graf--p graf--leading graf--trailing\">Lazy Surfer is the only personalized surf forecasting tool. Download for free today\u200a\u2014<a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/?utm_source=medium&amp;utm_campaign=how_do_i_know\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/?utm_source=medium&amp;utm_campaign=how_do_i_know\">\u200alazysurfer.app<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good? This article is part 4 of a series about reading surf forecasts. Here are the first, second and third articles. We surfers have one goal\u200a\u2014\u200afinding out when and where the best waves in our travel radius are going to be and making &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/reading-surf-forecasts-but-how-do-i-know-if-it-s-going-to-be-good-7d2ae78f994d\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","entry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good? - Lazy Surfer Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/lazysurfer.app\/blog\/reading-surf-forecasts-but-how-do-i-know-if-it-s-going-to-be-good-7d2ae78f994d\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good? - Lazy Surfer Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Reading Surf Forecasts: But how do I know if it\u2019s going to be\u00a0good? 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